Able_Bluebird_4005 • 10 mo. 5kg) comes out to ¥735. • 8 mo. Whatisgoingonwtf • 2 yr. 3 comments. 3. Link to seller. Nike Air More Uptempo Entrance. • 22 days ago. The most popular items of the last 30 days. or you can just browse their weidian shop. Is anything under a size 40 GS? Here's the link. That's good for you because all agents have great support for Weidian. Pandabuy is a global shopping agent that helps you to buy products from China and offers warehousing services for free, and helps with shipping products to you. So u/Competitive-Guide653 keep up the good work. 2. Shits probably on a boat, aint getting any more updates too never gonna ship SAL again. 92K subscribers in the Pandabuy community. In reality there are no trusted or approved sellers. I’m all for supporting buyers through valid complaints, but the recent shift in tone among the rep communities truly has been concerning. We strive to be an open, welcoming community to rep buyers, old and new, that helps buyers find the highest quality reps on the market. Hello everyone. PandaBuy for iPad, iPhone is also developed by PANDA TECHNOLOGY CO. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment . summer finds, no more sweaters bro. Yhea I have the pair in my cart is it actually good ? Same price as ljr. Join my discord for any help: up for Pandabuy: with 200+. If you wanted 27. Compatible with Android. Most people ship with EMS. 07 I used HN-EUB from the US, the shipping took about 2-3 weeks with the box coming very damaged but, that didn’t really matter. Old cobbler - LV. Website: 273K Members. Website: 279K Members. Tbh these look better than what i was expecting so I am happy with these. WWTOP is super reliable in my experience, just received my GX black cats and they’re perfect! I’ve just ordered GX Union Guavas 4, GX Bred 4s, PK Phantom Blacks and Pippens…. August 29, 2023. 5 cm it would be 28 cm on the 43 EU number. Varies 10 days-3 months. This channel is for entertainment purposes only. gg/vFZeCxP6tym filmie dowiecie się, jak skutecznie szukać i kupować rzeczy na plat. 【Pandabuy 2023 Black Friday Extravaganza💥】100+ trending items with Exclusive Discounts, 200+ discounted stores, 10% Site-wide allowance, 5x Pandabuy points & CNfair grand update! GIVEAWAY EVENT. 4K Online. Join. ! TRUSTED AND ESTABLISHED SELLER LIST CLICK HERE. More info in the comments. ago. Spreadsheet of the Month: BudgetShop Spreadsheet - 2000+ Finds! BudgetShop is the best place to find high quality sneakers and clothing at an affordable price! Brands range from Nike, Corteiz, Trapstar, Bape and many more! The spreadsheet has QC photos for each item and is reccommended for anyone purchasing from pandabuy!USEFUL PANDABUY HAUL (Supreme Protein Shaker, Table Mat, Usb Adaptors, Balaclava, Airpods Max, Usb Power Strip, Chug Chug , sound box, Mobile rotator , PC Stand + Cooler , Plushies , pillow ) r/Pandabuy •Repbudgetsneakers. This a M batch flaw, as I don't think retail is like that. 110. In order to make sure your post is in accordance with sub rules and won't be deleted, please read the following: . Agents store your items in their warehouse, provide photos of the items you purchased, and then ship all your items to you at once. Yo prefiero Sugargoo sinceramente. View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. ago. Thanks for sharing your PandaBuy Purchase! We have created a quick 2 min guide Link to help explain and apply your member benefits! You can now use the PandaBuy search bar to enter a QC photo "PI" number to get a WTC Link! PandaBuy Benefits. I take this as a sign I’d rather not do business. For me it takes like 1 to 2 weeks. 1 / 18. Well back with another one, keeping it consistent. Im new to pandabuy does anyone know any good sellers or reps? comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. Pandabuy- A community based on the discussion of the best Chinese shopping agent. Orange Lobster TOP/S2 batch from WWTOP : r/Pandabuy. [QC] 99¥ Nike Dunk Panda - S batch - Anonymous seller - Pandabuy. 4. Budgetshoes exclusively offers 1,000 pairs of special VT dunks, and the price will return to back when sold out h5. C. We help those new and old to the budget rep community with introductory. In short, once out of stock, our agent will communicate with you as soon as possible, and then you can decide whether to cancel the order. Sneakerhead community dedicated to budget reps and reserved for budget replica shoes and stores, no middleman hype here! We help those new and old to the budget rep community with introductory guides, agent & sellers lists, hot deals, and general discussion around BUDGET SNEAKER reps! 176K Members. Very disappointed in WWTOP!! - GX Batch Jordan 4 Black Cat WWTOP 470¥. The quality on the overall shoe isn’t terrible but the colors… it looks like a whole new color way. 1. Some shoes I ordered said "seller sent" too, however there was no tracking data connected to the tracking #. i think their factory got raided. Rule #2: Post Title Guidelines [QC] {Price in Yuan} {Batch} {Shoe Name} from {Seller Name}. second, you always ask the seller on wechat if he has stock. Thanks for sharing your PandaBuy Purchase! We have created a quick 2 min guide Link to help explain and apply your member benefits! You can now use the PandaBuy search bar to enter a QC photo "PI" number to get a WTC Link! PandaBuy Benefits. Can’t believe WWTOP actually sent these. 121. Never had any problems like seizing or anything else. 235K subscribers in the Pandabuy community. From what seller tho do you have a link to suggest ? xkenzjp3 • 10 mo. Rule #2: Post Title Guidelines [QC] {Price in Yuan} {Batch} {Shoe Name} from {Seller Name}. 1 / 4. 11 WWTOP Discount Sale. Replica sneaker community focused on sneaker finds through non-middleman routes, such as Weidian, TaoBao, etc. 121. 400¥ JS Batch AJ1 Highs (multiple colorways) from WWTOP (PandaBuy) - 400¥ JS Batch AJ1 High (Multiple Colorwars from A GDJ Supplier (WeGoBuy) |. comIs the gx batch from wwtop still not working because he apparently got raided any one have an update? Locked post. Hi there! Thank you for your contribution to the group. We strive to be an open, welcoming community to rep buyers, old and new, that helps buyers find the highest quality reps on the market. And it’s pretty good. 333. Pandabuy has seller’s stores available on its platform. High Tier. 0. TS Golf Waterproof Effect. anyone know if wwtop still good to buy from. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Pandabuy- A community based on the discussion of the best Chinese shopping agent. In order to make sure your post is in accordance with sub rules and won't be deleted, please read the following: . 5. RL!Wholesale1991 has a weidian shop. but he also posts a lot on his reddit acc. Topics may include foreign markets such as Taobao, Weidian, and many other Chinese marketing platforms. Agents are helpful in most situations although they dont sometimes understand everything but thats fine since they use translators. Therefore due to these behaviors of the seller, we have set a temporary ban for now. Shirts. Posted by u/Sodaay - No votes and no commentsI want to give you some information about the stock first, because now the factory and the seller are working, but most of the workers are not working, the workers will be back to work after the Chinese Lantern Festival in a week. They are also selling on , . Yea just wait bro. All qc or in hand posts need to have W2C link tagged in the caption or the comments. Free & clear HD QC Photos. use with confidence. TMF - GX BATCH - Jordan 4 Fire Red - 450¥ - pandabuy. This includes the sellers name, shoe name, batch if available, and price in yuan. Pandabuy- A community based on the discussion of the best Chinese shopping agent. but in this rep game some every seller has its up and downs for certain things so its all about looking in my opinion. [NO QC] - Canada Goose Freestyle Vest Grey Black Badge - ¥168 - Quanzhou B. ago. I re-established an account to face the international market, so I want to send these to you to see which shoes you prefer. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment [deleted] • Additional. 138. Only stores that we know exist, and then ones that users in this community report bad experiences with and are labeled as "proceed with caution". Tennesseew•. TS Golf Waterproof Effect. PK only for sails. PK costs 450, the minimum price for a random batch of these costs 360¥ on the link. 78. 1 / 5. Hi there! Thank you for your contribution to the group. GX/KW batch from WWTop - PandabuyA frequently asked question I get is if I can recommend sellers, Weidian stores, TaoBao stores, etc. i call out every sellers of this server ‼️‼️ it is a interest check r/repbudgetsneakers • 【DeveloperBoring】Feedback 11th Some Projects and Your Recent Ideas. Latest Information - GX AJ4 SB End of modification - WWTOP. We help those new and old to the budget rep community with introductory guides, agent & sellers lists, hot deals, and general discussion around. you should have gotten gx in the first place. Wwtop is a good seller. [QC] Dunk Panda 190¥ - VT Batch - Anonymous seller - Pandabuy upvotes. ge. 164. 1. My items that are worth around 2700 yuan in total have been in 'Abandonment of goods' status, even though i extended the storage on almost all of them. Yeah sorry there was a sale when i bought it so the price is not right. And they will definitely come with a greater discount for the following event!. Devi controllare se il seller accetta il reso Reply Neither_Ad851 • Additional comment actions. The latter tends to be easier unless it is a brand new batch on the market. Oct 10, 2023 U·G·G 2023 Classic Mini Solid Snow Boots. We strive to be an open, welcoming community to rep buyers, old and new, that helps buyers find the highest quality reps on the market. com. 1 / 9. just get rid of the space in the url. Jordan 4 Military Blue. i have retail and k1 is pretty different compared them, i would still go with FK if i were a buyer. 10kg 5 shoes, 20 items. Retro soccer/football jerseys to this seasons to even next seasons. Over the past couple of months, I've been on a wild Pandabuy treasure hunt, and guess what? I've scored over 450 epic finds, and I've dumped them all into this killer. Air Jordan Entrance. Message popup at WWTOP seller page. 113. Website: 274K Members. 【Pandabuy 2023 Black Friday Extravaganza💥】10% Site-wide allowance + 200+ discounted stores!Because hood sunglasses are hand made. Topics may include foreign markets such as Taobao, Weidian, and many other Chinese marketing platforms. All haul in fro will be in the comments and all the links will be under each photo. FashionReps Discord. Purchase experience. But you’re in the clear bro. Might as well buy some ray bands or gas station glasses or what ever you can find under 300. 754. 9 MB. Agents store your items in their warehouse, provide photos of the items you purchased, and then ship all your items to you at once. Air Max 95 is ask the possibility Please comment the name of any of your favorite rep seller, Pandabuy's gonna pick 1 lucky guy and prepare him specially a gift box from this very seller on 14th of Nov. FK's TS AJ1 low fragment only 44 and 47. This means that most shoes will start to be restocked in a week's time at the earliest. David925 and Survival source - real silver jewelry. 225. 1. johny-boy27. Join. Join. 38-40/M. 【Monthly Giveaway】Spice up Your Wardrobe & Win Big with Seller sceam52's Giveaway Event! r/Pandabuy. detail. comVendor/Seller: The individual that you actually buy from. ago. 1. Basically on the back of the jacket if you zoom in you will be able to see that the “S” is slightly lower than the rest of the lettering. QC Bape Hoodie 125 ¥ Seller 168 Pandabuy. Join. 1 / 12. Replica sneaker community focused on sneaker finds through non-middleman routes, such as Weidian, TaoBao, etc. The QC of GX Batch Jordan 4 "Military Black" Size 5. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions. Salvează ca favorit. 2- Pandabuy agent buys for you from your seller, seller sends the product to Pandabuy warehouse. It is important to us when the goods are really in your warehouse so that you can promptly send them on orders! Well back with another one, keeping it consistent. Make sure your post follows this format, or your post will unfortunately be deleted. If you've done your research on batch flaws, made an informed purchase, and selected a top batch, you will rarely have to RL/Red Light a. Dear Pandabuy customer, we have created a quick 2 min guide Link to help explain and apply your member benefits! If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at any time! u/PandaBuyers u/PandabuyTeam. AliExpress hidden links 2023 dhgate luxury seller 【Yupoo Brand No1 high Quality Guide】 》》Down Jacket SALE 👜Bag Mirror 5A Yupoo No1 best Quality 👕 Clothing AAAA+ Yupoo 1:1 No1 High Quality 👟Men's shoes Mirror Yupoo Top No1 best Quality 👝Wallet AAAA+ Yupoo No1 High Quality. CSRs seem to be pretty responsive. 41 • WWTOP • Pandabuy • Any help would be appreciated. Topics may include foreign markets such as Taobao, Weidian, and many other Chinese. Join. Join. So if the seller changes them on Yupoo. Nou, cu eticheta. We discuss the purchase and specific manufacturing details of replicas of brands that fit into the categories: office wear, business, high end sportswear or gentleman's clothing. PandaBuy la recomiendo para EE. Rule #2: Post Title Guidelines [QC] {Price in Yuan} {Batch} {Shoe Name} from {Seller Name}. This list will change frequently as new trends emerge. Hi there! Thank you for your contribution to the group. Topics may include foreign markets such as Taobao, Weidian, and many other Chinese marketing platforms. Sep 14, 2023 Yeezy slippers are really anti slip. 24K subscribers in the weidianwarriors community. Topics may include foreign markets such as Taobao, Weidian, and many other Chinese marketing platforms. Hi man. 57% of desktop visits last month, and Organic Search is the 2nd with 18. 1 / 4. 1. i call out every sellers of this server ‼️‼️ it is a interest check r/repbudgetsneakers • 【DeveloperBoring】Feedback 11th Some Projects and Your Recent Ideas. Classic sneaker that i wanted to have as part of my rep rotation. We strive to be an open, welcoming community to rep buyers, old and new, that helps buyers find the highest quality reps on the market. Rip WWTOP😐 . Never had any problems like seizing or anything else. 【Pandabuy 2023 Black Friday Extravaganza💥】10% Site-wide allowance + 200+ discounted stores!There's no such thing as the "best Pandabuy seller", as Pandabuy is just an agent, a logistics company, and not actually selling anything. ago. Budgetshoes - Shoes AlpineReps - Bags Fashion319. I shouldn’t have bought resell 😂. vorrei ordinare da WWTOP bro , prendere una jordan 4 red thunder. Oh no. 1. css is the cheapest agent there is for shipping afaik, but has a 6% fee on everything. Yeah but I thought only the gx. sugargoo • 10 days ago. S. Retail weighs 950g size 44. Rule #2: Post Title Guidelines [QC] {Price in Yuan} {Batch} {Shoe Name} from {Seller Name}. 1. In order to make sure your post is in accordance with sub rules and won't be deleted, please read the following: . . Topics may include foreign markets such as Taobao, Weidian, and many other Chinese marketing platforms. Topstoney - guess lol. Please make sure to read group rules, title your posts according to sub rules. "I had to size up based on seller's measurements chart, I'm normally a size L (UK size) but got these in XL, they fit just like a size L and are a great fit. Today is a good day, many shoes restocked, GX black and red thunderbolt 1-2 days will send all the outstanding goods, PK RE MOCHA is the same. These have been holding up very well and are very close to retail and are very comfy. View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. You may repost following the proper title format. weidian. From what seller tho do you have a link to suggest ? xkenzjp3 • 10 mo. Replica sneaker community focused on sneaker finds through non-middleman routes, such as Weidian, TaoBao, etc. 233. Pandabuy- A community based on the discussion of the best Chinese shopping agent. Topics may include…Looking for QC. Hot news. r/repweidiansneakers • (QC) 400¥ Off white dunks lot 1/50- M batch- Wwtop PandaBuy. Yeah well the air max 97 i got from footlocker had so many flaws and the bottom soles detached from the shoe after not even 1 year so i feel like reps might be literally more worth it. Website: these orange lobsters look? , these are WWtop , top/s2 version. Any QC requests that have not followed this format will be removed without warning. ago. Aug 28, 2023 Purchase Notes. com is Direct traffic, driving 72. 1ST OF ALL Pandabuy isnt a conventional site to buy goods, theyre a middleman of sorts to help with qc and shipping. However, definite GL. Thanks for sharing your PandaBuy Purchase! We have created a quick 2 min guide Link to help explain and apply your member benefits! You can now use the PandaBuy search bar to enter a QC photo "PI" number to get a WTC Link! PandaBuy Benefits User-friendly system features Free & clear HD QC Photos Cost-friendly shipping optionsI'm a size 6 in youth and I want to get a Jordan 4 from Pandabuy that's men sized instead of GS. 11 GIVEAWAY - WWTOP. 【New Seller】 Hello everyone, I am Red Dragon official, 7 years of clothing OEM, own factory; only do 1:1 high quality, global delivery 🌍 will bring new Syna products soon, so stay tuned! I will post my production process on my Instagram, please follow me! 395. But remember if you're set on that batch there. Add a Comment. Gl to me. I invite you to click on the link to get what’s proposed on this thread and see one of the stores for direct purchase (aka, no. Flexicas Trusted Seller. Sneakerhead community dedicated to budget reps and reserved for budget replica shoes and stores, no middleman hype here! We help those new and old to the budget rep community with introductory guides, agent & sellers lists, hot deals, and general discussion around BUDGET SNEAKER reps!Go to Pandabuy r/Pandabuy • by EyeWatch02. PandaBuy hack for questionable sellers…. Sneakerhead community dedicated to budget reps and reserved for budget replica shoes and stores, no middleman hype here! We help those new and old to the budget rep community with introductory guides, agent & sellers lists, hot deals, and general discussion around BUDGET SNEAKER reps! Show more. Pandabuy- A community based on the discussion of the best Chinese shopping agent. 129kg order 🔥🔥PandaBuy uk 🇬🇧 haul 📦📦. 148. Some of the batches are similar to that flaw, maybe it's a normal 🤣. If you want to see more content like this make sure to subscribe butt. Budgetshoes exclusively offers 1,000 pairs of special VT dunks, and the price will return to back when sold out h5. wwtop proveedor | las mejores calidades del mercado wwtop: catalogo pandabuy. Join. Jordan 1 UNC Blue is a shoe you can find a rep of. The buyer eventually gets QC pics thru pandabuy, regardless. Sneakerhead community dedicated to budget reps and reserved for budget replica shoes and stores…QC | GX Batch AJ4 Military Black | 460¥ | TMF | Pandabuy (new to reps) Can't go wrong with J4's GX batch, TMF is a good seller also. Both are good. Replica sneaker community focused on sneaker finds through non-middleman routes, such as Weidian, TaoBao, etc. Make sure your post follows this format, or your post will unfortunately be deleted. I do not know what these marks are, this is the 5th time these marks are on my shoes, it keeps growing back and I am extremely disappointed. QC Canada Goose vest ¥168. We help those new and old to the budget rep community with introductory guides to agents, sellers lists, hot deals, and general discussion around BUDGET FASHION reps!. Hi there! Thank you for your contribution to the group. ago. IN HAND: Medium Curry dunks - VT batch - Jinmen - 179yuan. r/1688Reps. . Some sellers are returning later. marts 2023. 1. I do not know what these marks are, this is the 5th time these marks are on my shoes, it keeps growing back and I am extremely disappointed. For the last couple of months I have been collecting over 600+ of the best Pandabuy finds into a comprehensive spreadsheet! Each item in the spreadsheet has QC photos and prices listed in both CNY and USD! I will regularly update the spreadsheet to include new finds and replace out-of-stock items! So please bookmark this spreadsheet!Popular, reputable GX/KW/K Batch Weidian sellers: all sellers below have been frequently used in the community. So i recently bought a pair of jordan 4 midnight navy from WWTOP seller from pandabuy. Balenciaga Track Premium- Mai multe modele! 950 lei Prețul e negociabil. 5 everything fits calm. Go to Pandabuy r/Pandabuy • by BarPretty6782. Bucuresti, Sectorul 3 - 23 noiembrie 2023. 1 / 9. We help those new and old to the budget rep community with introductory guides, agent & sellers lists, hot deals, and general discussion around BUDGET SNEAKER reps! Members Online. r/repweidiansneakers. 770. from my items I have purchased from these sellers they have had good quality that I have been satisfied with. TOP 5 PANDABUY SELLERS THAT YOU NEED (YUPOO) | BEST PANDABUY FINDS. 83. 2 - Other stores you know + have purchased directly from Pandabuy and liked it! Proposed Format: Name. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Hi there! Thank you for your contribution to the group. Generally, if you can click and buy it's in stock. Depends on seller. However, there are also cases where the merchant is out of stock but still shows that it is available for purchase, although this is a special case. 5K. Sneakerhead community dedicated to budget reps and reserved for budget replica shoes and stores, no middleman hype here! We help those new and old to the budget rep community with introductory guides, agent & sellers lists, hot deals, and general discussion around BUDGET SNEAKER reps! Show more. T-Shirts. A list of popular sellers discussed on the sub. QC - 470 Yuan - GX BATCH (KW) - JORDAN 4 Midnight Navy - WWTOP - PANDABUY. We strive to be an open, welcoming community to rep buyers, old and new, that helps buyers find the highest quality reps on the market. NO. Jasonreps good - a bit of everything. Vote. 143. We help those new and old to the budget rep community with introductory guides, agent & sellers lists, hot deals, and general discussion around BUDGET SNEAKER reps! Members Online GX 11. Topics may include foreign markets such as Taobao, Weidian, and many other Chinese marketing platforms. T567083 •. how much for shipping. WWTOP. -3. You think the swoosh is too big ? They look really good to me and I have a retail pair. We help those new and old to the budget rep community with introductory guides, agent & sellers lists, hot deals, and general discussion around BUDGET SNEAKER reps! Members Online [QC] 650¥ Chicago 85 Jordan 1 from RepDeveloperBoring upvotes. YuCron. Join. Pandabuy- A community based on the discussion of the best Chinese shopping agent. Website: 270K Members. Back to the topic : I was wearing for half a year the ''ok'' batch ( bean 650y vs WWTOP 430y - same batch )Hi there! Thank you for your contribution to the group. 11. 2. Rule #2: Post Title Guidelines [QC] {Price in Yuan} {Batch} {Shoe Name} from {Seller Name}. Make sure your post follows this format, or your post will unfortunately be deleted. r/repbudgetsneakers. r/repbudgetsneakers •. QC Request 200¥ - 299¥ 🔍🕵🏻♂️🕵🏽♂️🕵🏿♂️🔎 A1 Top is a Weidian seller primarily. 40 comments. Folk forveksler den Kinesiske yuan med den japanske yen. How to use PandaBuy (an agent) to purchase anything from Taobao/Weidian/Yupoo! I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Best Batch: PK. pandabuy is bascially the same price as wgb so not worth it. 230. A Platform Crafted for Global Shopping. • 5 days ago. r/Repbudgetfashion •. Pandabuy is probably the best thing ive found in a while. 176K Members. ago. but he also posts a lot on his reddit acc. Mirror - those dumb hoodies with a supreme bogo. . 2 - Other stores you know + have purchased directly from Pandabuy and liked it! Proposed Format: Name. Shop from China, Shop with Pandabuy. Rule #2: Post Title Guidelines [QC] {Price in Yuan} {Batch} {Shoe Name} from {Seller Name}. Perso je GL ( qlq mini. 460-550¥ GX/KW/K Batch Jordan 4s from A GDJ Supplier. There are many online shops that sell rep sneakers, and one of the best sites to buy rep sneakers from is SneakerDouble. Ask for a natural lighting pictures in the exact same angle of the 5th pic. Pandabuy- A community based on the discussion of the best Chinese shopping agent. 662 Online. Used to be a consistently good place to buy from in terms of quality-for-price but has fallen off recently. Very disappointed in WWTOP!! - GX Batch Jordan 4 Black Cat WWTOP 470¥Developer Boring Nike SB Dunk Low Skeletor. Topics may include foreign markets such as Taobao, Weidian,. Make sure your post follows this format - if any component above is missing, your post will. ago. • 1 yr. Hi there! Thank you for your contribution to the group. k1 has updated their batch multiple times. Swoosh is too big, just saying. Premium Powerups Explore Gaming. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. Rule #2: Post Title Guidelines [QC] {Price in Yuan} {Batch} {Shoe Name} from {Seller Name}. Which is the 10 most recently posted pictures and their names. Hope you guys enjoy this one as much as you did the last, really appreciate all the support I've been gett. PopPanda, The Ultimate Pandabuy Spreadsheet (1200+ Quality items and more being added daily) The PopPanda spreadsheet contains: Shoes. Join. Air Max Plus 1 (TN) in hand from a 1688 seller ¥118. Let me know if you guys need the seller link. The buyer eventually gets QC pics thru pandabuy, regardless.